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Salamence Tamer

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Jul 22 11 10:37 PM

Thanks Poketamer your very nice. But my drawings could have been a lot better.

Last Edited By: Salamence Tamer Jul 22 11 10:43 PM. Edited 1 times.

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poketamer94

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Jul 23 11 2:42 AM

well I just don't like it when people just critizice stuff for how they look, instead of the more important things.

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Cacapulse

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Jul 23 11 2:58 AM

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*sigh* How they look is important. Extremely important.

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poketamer94

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Jul 23 11 9:41 AM

I know but still a good description makes any drawing have a detailed understanding.

Salamence Tamer

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Jul 23 11 3:55 PM

Dont turn my suggestion into a Flame War. Thanks for Sticking up for me, but both of what you have said are just as important as each other. Yes my drawing might be bad, but as I said before its just a base idea of what they look like and I'm Quite sure that the Staff will make better art than myself.

elementalpenguin

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Jul 23 11 7:20 PM

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Alright, let me jump in. I agree that these aren't too komodo-like, having seen one today. However, that's another matter. What Cacapulse is saying is that if you feel your art may not rise up to the challenge of describing your creation, it's perfectly fine to do a well-done text description as well - in fact, it's encouraged, in case the staff want to refine your design somewhat while doing concept. Lengthy text descriptions are fine! And if you decide to change the design somewhat for whatever reason, it's much easier to edit a text description than do another drawing.

The other thing is that it's perfectly fine to criticize based on appearance, as aesthetic is ultimately what we first notice about most pokemon. However, one has to bear in mind that drawing ability may not always reflect the description one has pictured accurately. This is another reason to focus on the text description.

Just my two cents - hope it helps calm things.

Salamence Tamer

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Jul 23 11 7:34 PM

Yes it has thanks Elamentalpenguin. I will take all that into mind, maybe I should lengthen my descriptions? Maybe that would make It easy for you and the staff to get the idea and the concetp of this suggestion?

poketamer94

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Jul 30 11 6:44 PM

Maybe you could give them some Medivel patterns to give them relations to Dragons?

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Bgreymon

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Jul 30 11 7:04 PM

Sorry to cause more trouble but I don't think these can be classified as Komodo dragons or salamanders, especially since the final evolution is Dragon/Flying type. Neither of those two animals has anything to do with flight what so ever and I believe these fit more as the classical Western dragon. The sword through the head adds to this as Western dragons are usually hated things that are often hunted down and killed in legend.

As I said before I am sorry if I cause any trouble, it's just that I am trying to help (I think).

Salamence Tamer

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Aug 2 11 10:48 PM

Bgreymon- No no thats fine and yes the westen dragon idea was fantasic.
Poketamer- Yeah maybe I could but there not really things from the past. a
Also if anybody has ideas for new names I would be happy to change it to it.

Last Edited By: Salamence Tamer Aug 2 11 10:59 PM. Edited 1 times.

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AlphaAquarii

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Aug 3 11 5:37 PM

I've drawn some sketches of your pokemon. The one main difference is that I put the knives/swords through the front of the head because I felt that putting through the side makes it a little awkward, and I thought making it symmetrical might look better. Other than that If you like them you can have them, if not, I can get rid of them. Hope it helps.
http://i1225.photobucket....haAquarii/1312421043.jpg
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poketamer94

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Aug 3 11 6:45 PM

Woah! Those are awsome beyond belief!

AlphaAquarii

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Aug 3 11 6:52 PM

poketamer94: You really think so?

Salamence Tamer

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Aug 3 11 9:53 PM

I agree this has helpd so much. there just.. Fantasic! Thanks for your help!

AlphaAquarii

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Aug 3 11 9:56 PM

I'm so so so glad you like them

I was thinking that you would turn them down because of the sword thing.

JDLJDL

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Aug 5 11 1:59 PM

No, they aren't.
On the sketches themselves, first of all, the left leg (the one closest to the viewer) is too much towards the tail judging from the leg farther away in Salamodo. Since this Pokémon has no explicit knee, it's impossible, unless the two legs have different positions.
On Salagon, the hands and feet are just horrible. Strong word, yes, but really now. Look at that left claw. Look at those paper-thin and flat feet.
On Komdogon, this is actually pretty good. The pose is nice, and the shading is great. Claws, feet, and tail look slightly awkward but it can pass without edits.

Actually the shading was pretty good throughout (that is, ignoring some areas, such as the underbelly of Salagon).

Lines are a bit thick in places, though.

I would say that this is "pretty good", but nowhere near "awesome beyond belief".

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Last Edited By: JDLJDL Aug 5 11 2:03 PM. Edited 1 times.

AlphaAquarii

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Aug 5 11 2:22 PM

Well aren't you just a peach! You don't see me judging every nook and cranny of your drawings! And that last statement doesn't make-up for what you have said. That's just wrong.

Flarsable

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Aug 5 11 8:22 PM

Well, considering he hasn't shown us a drawing since before you joined, you haven't really seen one... he's just pointing out your errors. Don't need to get angry at him. His last sentence was just a recap, like hopefully all last sentences in reviews/school papers/whatnot should be.

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sovereignofsilence667

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Aug 5 11 8:55 PM

It was still quite rude. He presented criticism in such a manner as to be brusque and abrasive about it. I should know because I do it sometimes too (and rarely is it on accident ;P).

On the subject of the drawings, I like them. I've always had a thing for dragons (in fact, I have an interesting story for anyone who wishes to PM me about it going back to my earliest days involving the movie "Jurassic Park").

On the subject of the Pokemon themselves... Well, I'll be frank and say that they probably will not be accepted. Not because they're not good (they certainly have potential and those beautiful sketches by Alpha are quite a boost to this topic's credibility), but because the Staff is sick and tired of Dragon-Type Pokemon, and as thus have stated that all suggestions that have any sort of Dragon-Type in them "must be perfect". And this suggestion has a long road ahead of it before it even glimpses "perfect".

Also, you should probably change the title to "Western Dragon" instead of "Westen Dragon"-- I know of no such thing as a "Westen Dragon".

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Flarsable

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Aug 5 11 10:15 PM

Just a quick question- but what is their Dream World ability? I think it should be Regenerator to reference how real salamanders can autotomize (shed limbs and then regain them later).

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