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Flarsable wrote:

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FoxOfWar wrote:

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@Flars: "interesting concept" my rear. I feel like I've seen this suggestion dozen times already, the poster possessing only one post nonwithstanding.

So, yet another "ball with eyes" suggestion. It's possibly they're even more common on these boards than dragons or Metal Coat-evolutions. Sheesh.

My creative mind just fell asleep at the utter blandness of this. There seems to be nothing that makes it stand out even a bit from the good dozen other "ball with eyes" suggestions.

Move lists are a tad too long and have tad too much offensive moves, as well. Stats are well in the "legendary" department, something I personally do not approve of. Put it this way: the last form's stats are rather reminiscent of Mewtwo. Abilities that are on legendaries, such a Drought, are usually kept so.

  

Name them. These are the only Fire/Ice types I've seen suggested. Ever.

Well, since you asked... http://pfsuggestionsboard.yuku.com/topic/3013
Not to mention Glairnus, which was linked above.

But really, it's not so much about the type combo. It's about the goddamn "ball with eyes" complex I have problem with. Pokemon like that are not fun, nor relatable, nor interesting. They are so freaking bland that my creative side of the brain falls asleep at the mere idea of it - and I generally *like* designing pokemon's looks, as you might have noticed. It could be [insert interesting and less-used type combo here], and it would still be a goshdarned Ball With Eyes that is not really a pokemon in my opinion, just a chunk of... of... I cannot even of think of a word to describe the utter lack words to describe such a thing with!

Sure, suggest more BWEs if you want. Give them utterly original and never-used type combos. But they will still be rather unrelatable, single-motive, boring as all hell-type of suggestions that will never catch my interest, and I think I'm not the only one.

soble92 wrote:

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FoxOfWar, there is a whole BODY style based on the "ball with eyes". Look here:

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Body_style

I'm well aware of that. Guess how many of them I have trained, or even considered training?
Like I said, feel free to suggest them. I will feel just as free to express my loathing of said things because they're not exactly creative or relatable. And of the official pokemon that are BWEs, at least most of them are based on something else besides being a physical(or gaseous) ball of their own element.

But *shrugs* I guess I can shut up now, I think I made my opinion abundantly clear on the subject.

Okay, pardon that then.

In regards to the suggestion: it often helps a TON if you base it on more than one basis(in this case, fire and ice); when I think of element combo, I very often also think "what animal/phenomenon/plant/whatever ELSE can I base this on?" Basing it only on one thing makes it very shallow, and not very interesting - Balls With Eyes are very prominent on this, so pardon my slight hostility on the subject.