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JDLJDL

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Apr 15 10 2:40 PM

Heck no! Looks nice!
I wonder if some of my students are thinking up new lines at school as well? Look at that blank stare...
Should they learn Bullet Seed or Water Gun?

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Apr 15 10 2:43 PM

I was debating on having them learn moves like that, but I didn't want them to have too long of a movelist, and not too varied of one either. Could you imagine a high-defense Steel Pokemon with powered-up Special attacks and could learn, like, 6 different typed-moves? It would be quite something to deal with. Anyway, glad you like them!

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Apr 15 10 3:23 PM

These are some really high quality ideas, but simple at the same time. I think they aren't any more man made than a bunch of the other ideas, and even porygon requires human technology. I can't wait to see some drawings of these.

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Apr 15 10 3:35 PM

These sound very cool! I like these very much!

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Apr 15 10 6:30 PM

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I love this idea, although what I find strange is that the move Mortar (which is awesome, by the way), is classified as special, even though it clearly states that it fires a cannonball. I know you it that way to synergize with its ability which boosts Special Attacks, so I suggest a little tweak: Make the Longshot ability similar to the ability Iron Fist, but instead of boosting punching moves, it boosts shooting moves (We should make a list for that), both physical and special.

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Apr 15 10 6:47 PM

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So like, Longshot ability: Receives extra ammunition for projectile moves. or something amusing like that?

I really like these. Cannon and Mortar pokemon. You would think Nintendo'd have come up with these (I don't count Blastoise...)

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Apr 15 10 7:00 PM

And the Remoraid line could also have this ability? No, I wish. They already have two abilities (on a side note, the caption for Octillery's artwork says "frpm" lol). And I interpreted "shooting" as with projectiles, like Bullet Seed or Mud Bomb.

Bullet Seed
Mud Bomb
Mortar
Rock Blast
Gunk Shot
Sludge Bomb
Energy Ball
Seed Bomb
Zap Cannon
Fling (?)

There are probably more or less, but I'm not quite sure how projectile works.

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Apr 15 10 7:17 PM

Alright, I will agree to the change. I just figured that a special attack is a long-range attack, and a physical attack is one where the Pokemon connect. Either way, I like your idea better.

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Apr 15 10 7:19 PM

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Sludge Bomb,Mud Bomb, Seed Bomb Energy Ball doesn't seem to fit quite well unlike the others. Also, maybe the moves Flash Cannon, Sand Cannon, Frost Cannon, Seed Cannon (I never knew there were so much cannon moves!), ?Mud Shot?, ?Pin Missile? could be added to the list?
EDIT:
With some more digging, Focus Blast seems to fit as a projectile, also Rock Wrecker, even though the latter is Rhyperior's signature move as of now, we can still include it.

Last Edited By: Cacapulse Apr 15 10 7:40 PM. Edited 1 times.

SoR

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Apr 15 10 7:24 PM

I think Cacapulse is right, although I think Mud Shot doesn't fit this pokemon, it seems more polished and clean than dirty, I think mud wouldn't work.

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Flarsable

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Apr 15 10 7:37 PM

With Seed Bomb you're shooting a projectile. A seed. It just explodes. Also, if you include cannons, then you might as well include other weapon-like things like Water Gun & Flamethrower and a lot of other Special moves. I think we should stick to projectiles.

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Apr 15 10 7:47 PM

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Point taken, only Energy Ball is unfitting for now.
@ Flarsable: As you may have already noticed, these three pokemon are basically living cannons, so I stand on my proposition.
@ SoR: Yeah, I was thinking too much about "shot" moves.

EDIT: Shall we finalize the list now?

Mortar
Fling
Barrage
Tri Attack
Bullet Seed
Rock Wrecker
Rock Blast
Aimed Shot
Gunk Shot
Mud Bomb
Sludge Bomb
Seed Bomb
Zap Cannon
Flash Cannon
Sand Cannon
Frost Cannon
Seed Cannon

Last Edited By: Cacapulse Apr 15 10 10:16 PM. Edited 2 times.

SoR

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Apr 15 10 7:48 PM

I think cannon moves are good, because these are CANNONS.

I think water gun and flamethrower may make some sense, but I think that the cannon moves should be as far as it spreads.

edit: I guess I got beat, but that movelist looks great, although maybe you want to get rid of gunk shot and mud bomb, although that isn't a life or death thing. I'm on the fence about them.

Last Edited By: SoR Apr 15 10 8:12 PM. Edited 1 times.

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Apr 15 10 8:21 PM

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I like Gunk Shot for sure, and I see no reason why Mud Bomb shouldn't be included, except for the aforementioned cleanliness, which doesn't seem to much of a big deal to me. I don't really like Water Gun or Flamethrower though, since they're special moves. Focus Blast also seems odd to me.
I know it probably should be the only ability as with Iron Fist, but Sniper fits these really well.

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Apr 15 10 9:04 PM

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Cacapulse didn't suggest a movelist. That list is pick and choose which will be acceptable to apply the ability longshot to. Anyway, it's Drufle's pick in the end as for what moves are used. And as for my two cents, I think mud bomb is fine, but we should draw the line between moves like mud bomb and moves like Ice Ball since Ice Ball seems more or other "dropped" moves seem more... well dropped rather than fired. Fling is a great idea. I also think bulletseed is workable, although it might not be the most believable. Oh, and don't use Focus Blast. It seems more like the fighting pokemon's "ki" being released than an actual projectile. And I agree with EP, Water Gun and Flamethrower, although associated with weaponry, seem more like characterizations than literal weapons and shouldn't be used since they don't seem to be projectile anyway.

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Apr 15 10 9:29 PM

Agree with moves on DeckuZora.

In general, I like these ideas, though not sure last form needs to be Dark - but that's just me and my bias for pure Steel types.

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Apr 15 10 10:02 PM

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BTW, what type is Mortar? I presume Steel-type?
Now let's try to tweak the movelist, it's kind of short currently, and with the last evolution learning its last move at level 40 is quite odd.

- Tackle
4 Smokescreen
8 Barrage
11 Aimed Shot
15 Iron Defense
18 Lock On
22 Mirror Shot
25 Rock Blast
29 Flash Cannon
32 Double-Edge
36 Stainless
39 Lead Weight
43 Zap Cannon

- Tackle
-Smokescreen
-Barrage
4 Smokescreen
8 Barrage
11 Aimed Shot
15 Iron Defense
18 Lock On
25 Mirror Shot
29 Rock Blast
34 Flash Cannon
38 Mortar
43 Stainless
47 Lead Weight
52 Zap Cannon

-Sand Cannon
-Frost Cannon
-Gunk Shot
- Tackle
- Smokescreen
- Barrage
- Aimed Shot
4 Smokescreen
8 Barrage
11 Aimed Shot
15 Iron Defense
18 Lock On
25 Mirror Shot
29 Rock Blast
34 Tri Attack
35 Flash Cannon
40 Mortar
46 Stainless
51 Lead Weight
57 Zap Cannon

JDLJDL

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Apr 16 10 2:35 AM

That moveset looks reasonable.
Octazooka is a no-go, right?

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Apr 16 10 3:28 AM

Bad pun JDLJDL, and you know it. Shoo! :P

Flarsable

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Apr 16 10 5:28 AM

SoR wrote:
I think cannon moves are good, because these are CANNONS.

I think water gun and flamethrower may make some sense, but I think that the cannon moves should be as far as it spreads.

edit: I guess I got beat, but that movelist looks great, although maybe you want to get rid of gunk shot and mud bomb, although that isn't a life or death thing. I'm on the fence about them.

Yes, but the cannon moves fire a laser (besides Zap Cannon, I think) and not a cannonball, like cannons do.

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