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patricol

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Mar 15 10 11:15 AM

Swallach's abilty should of course be Speed Boost. About Noctowl's evo, maybe it has some connection to time?

My Suggestions:

Duckiducky (DS#037)
Rubbarvaz (DS#038)
Larvyre (Community DS#039)
Pupyre (Community DS#040)
Lepradu (DS#150)

Pollutross (DS #180)

Jibayuna (DS #199 Legendary Contest winner)

Bayubisa (DS #200 Legendary Contest winner)
Torchild
Lightorch
Destorch
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Shining ShinE

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Mar 15 10 11:16 AM

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Noctowl's evo would definitely need to be Psychic/Flying, since both Hoothoot's and Noctowl's concepts heavily hint at psychic abilities.

However, before working on these, we should ask ourselves the following: Hoothoot/Noctowl and Taillow/Swellow are both typical early-found, two-stage birds. Is it wise to give them evolutions, thus causing them to loose that role?

soble92

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Mar 15 10 11:23 AM

Yes, and let me explain why. Pidgey, Hoothoot, Tailow and Starly are all "starter bird pokemon" as I call them. Pidgey and Starly however get 2 evos. I feel it being unfair for them to get the advantage.

And I can agree with the psychic/flying evo.

patricol

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Mar 15 10 11:29 AM

I think we should evolve Magcry because of that ^-^

My Suggestions:

Duckiducky (DS#037)
Rubbarvaz (DS#038)
Larvyre (Community DS#039)
Pupyre (Community DS#040)
Lepradu (DS#150)

Pollutross (DS #180)

Jibayuna (DS #199 Legendary Contest winner)

Bayubisa (DS #200 Legendary Contest winner)
Torchild
Lightorch
Destorch
Phashift(Community)

Shining ShinE

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Mar 15 10 11:42 AM

PF Executive

There's actually a difference in concept/role between pokémon like Pidgey, Starly and Tiquail on the one hand, and pokémon like Spearow, Hoothoot, Taillow, Magtie on the other. This is apparent in the pokémon stats; the stats of Fearow, Noctowl, Swellow (and Magcry) are closer to those of Pidgeot, Staraptor (and Quailane) than to those of Pidgeotto, Staravia (and Kwiquail).

This is not to say that I'm entirely opposed to this idea, but I do think that we should carefully consider whether these evos are actually needed and whether Nintendo would consider making them or not.

elementalpenguin

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Mar 15 10 1:36 PM

Pokémon Factory Worker

I agree - I've always seen them as two concepts, that end up about the same. Swellow and Noctowl, if given evolutions, would become far more powerful than Pidgeot, and Staraptor. Thus, I feel that they do not need evos.

RPG
Crys: Chrysice lvl 10, female
Powder Snow
Supersonic

Harden

Sargon: Nidoran Male, lvl 8
Leer
Peck

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soble92

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Mar 15 10 5:48 PM

... I guess this idea is done. But I DO want some help with the "bird riding its own jet-stream" concept. Mind helping me out?

elementalpenguin

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Mar 15 10 6:36 PM

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Yes, that is a very cool idea. A streamlined pokemon like that... yes.
How about Zephach for the name? (ZEPHyr + corruption of hawk + mach)

RPG
Crys: Chrysice lvl 10, female
Powder Snow
Supersonic

Harden

Sargon: Nidoran Male, lvl 8
Leer
Peck

PARTNERS: Xer0 (Romulus)

soble92

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Mar 15 10 6:39 PM

Now that I think about it, it should be a 3 stager. The first 2 are normal/flying, while the last is wind/flying. Mind if someone help with the moves?

ZeldaFan

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Mar 16 10 11:23 AM

I'd be happy to once we get basic concepts done. What kind of birds are they?

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soble92

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Mar 16 10 11:28 AM

I'm thinking some kind of raptor, or hunting bird. The final evo get's two sets of wings like I said before.

ZeldaFan

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Mar 16 10 11:45 AM

Hmm... I'll see what I can do. Just some move ideas, not any levels until we have more.

Peck, Growl, Tackle, Gust, Screech, Quick Attack, Wing Attack, Whirlwind, Aerial Ace, Agility, Air Slash, Tailwind, Extremespeed, Roost, Razor Wind, Nose Dive

I'll remove a couple moves and add levels once we get descriptions, evolution methods, etc. done.

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soble92

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Mar 16 10 11:50 AM

Tailwind is a definite keep. It is what evolves the 2nd stage to the 3rd stage.

ZeldaFan

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Mar 16 10 1:36 PM

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??? Stage 1
Peck -
Growl -
Gust 4
Quick Attack 9
Screech 12
Wing Attack 17
Air Cutter 20
Whirlwind 25
Aerial Ace 28
Tailwind 33
Air Slash 36
Agility 41
Extremespeed 44
Roost 49
Razor Wind 52
Nose Dive 57

More to come later!

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elementalpenguin

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Mar 16 10 7:14 PM

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Perhaps Peregrive as a name? Peregrine Falcon + Dive? Peregrine falcons are the fastest things in the world, diving at I believe 220 Km/H. I had Peregret before, using jet, but that puts in Egret which doesn't fit, and regret. Both those come as side-effects or incorporating jet, and they don't work. So I think Peregrive is beter.

RPG
Crys: Chrysice lvl 10, female
Powder Snow
Supersonic

Harden

Sargon: Nidoran Male, lvl 8
Leer
Peck

PARTNERS: Xer0 (Romulus)

Miravistel

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Mar 16 10 7:48 PM

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Hmm, interesting observation about Peregret sounding like "regret." But in the same vein, when I saw Peregrive I read it at "pere-grieve" (rhyming with leave), not "pere-graive" (rhyming with dive). The was I read it, it sounds like grieve, meaning to mourn. Which makes me wonder if we could use the names Peregret and Peregrive for some form of sad-looking, mourning birds, although I know that doesn't fit the jetstream concept at all.

elementalpenguin

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Mar 16 10 8:30 PM

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Heheh, good point. This bird is determined to be depressed, it seems. Alright, I'm out of names now.

RPG
Crys: Chrysice lvl 10, female
Powder Snow
Supersonic

Harden

Sargon: Nidoran Male, lvl 8
Leer
Peck

PARTNERS: Xer0 (Romulus)

soble92

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Mar 17 10 3:15 AM

Eh... I don't like the concept of sadness.

I think I figured out the names.

Sonchic, Aureagle, and Zephyrach

ZeldaFan

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Mar 17 10 6:06 AM

Sounds good to me!

Sonchic
Peck -
Growl -
Gust 4
Quick Attack 9
Screech 12
Wing Attack 17
Air Cutter 20
Whirlwind 25
Aerial Ace 28
Tailwind 33
Air Slash 36
Agility 41
Extremespeed 44
Roost 49
Razor Wind 52
Nose Dive 57

Evolves into Aureagle at level 24

Aureagle
Peck -
Growl -
Gust -
Quick Attack -
Screech 12
Wing Attack 17
Air Cutter 21
Whirlwind 26
Aerial Ace 30
Tailwind 35
Air Slash 39
Agility 44
Extremespeed 48
Roost 53
Razor Wind 57
Nose Dive 62

Evolves into Zephyrach by learning Tailwind

Zephyrach
Tornado -
Peck -
Growl -
Gust -
Quick Attack -
Screech -
Wing Attack 17
Air Cutter 21
Whirlwind 27
Aerial Ace 32
Tailwind 38
Air Slash 43
Agility 49
Extremespeed 54
Roost 60
Razor Wind 65
Nose Dive 71

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FoxOfWar

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Mar 17 10 7:49 AM

That last one sounds like a solid concept. So we have an abnormally fast bird in our hands, and a predator at that.

So it probably hunts with dives that are pretty dang fast.

What else? Two first forms probably are just basic Taillow-Swellow definition of "fast." I would see the last form being faster than Swellow though. So a speedy pokemon line, with probably fairly respectable Attack as well, with some special defense as the "third semi-high stat." Let's try some stat spreads!

Sonchic: Base Total 250 (Pidgey has 251, Starly 245)
HP: 40 / Atk: 50 / Def: 30 / Sp Atk: 25 / Sp Def: 40 / Speed: 60

Aureagle: Base Total 350 (Pidgeotto 350, Staravia 340)
HP: 50 / Atk: 70 / Def: 40 / Sp Atk: 40 / Sp Def: 60 / Speed: 85

Zephyrach: Base Total 470 (Pidgeot 469, Staraptor 475)
HP: 60 / Atk: 95 / Def: 50 / Sp Atk: 50 / Sp Def: 85 / Speed: 130

So there's some ideas. Swellow's base speed 125, FYI

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