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Jul 12 09 3:28 PM

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The thing is, there are 20 HMs, and some of them I have some questions regarding.
Trailblaze: Umm, what do you mean by "slippery ice path"? The only ice I know of is already crossable.
Snowboard: Isn't that kind of cheap? Turning on ice at any time? That ruins the challenge of the ice, and snowboards are just as helpless on ice as a person would be on foot.
Sing: Seriously? Calms down violent storms? The storm would be too loud for the song to be effective. And what kind of violent storms would be in Bombur anyway? They wouldn't make the route if its blocked by a tornado, plus the tornado is moving. I don't get it one bit.
Cloud Call: What ground and water obstacles are you talking about?
GuidingLight: Why would we need a guide? That would be handy, but cheap. It's funner to Flash it then explore on your own.
Magic Bean: Is there any way to tell when you should use Magic Bean? Or are there set locations that you can use it? Maybe making it like Growth from Golden Sun?

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Jul 12 09 9:05 PM

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The proper usage of the HMs will be revealed as players reach the spots where their use is necessary. All I can answer right now is the following:

* Regarding Trailblaze, just read the map page:

"5. Ice Path: An icy path and bridge that leads to Askorun Town, the final stop before players reach the frigid Askorun Wastes. The Ice Path is so cold and slippery that it is impossible for players to continue their journey. Regular fire, however, is unable to thaw it. The only way to venture on is by using the TRAILBLAZE HM."

* Snowboard is not necessarily using an actual board, it's simply riding snow with a fancy name. It is not a required HM, so if you want crossing ice to be a challenge, then just don't use it.

* Read the descriptions of Flash and GuidingLight again. Flash is useful for caverns and tunnels, but it won't help you in the supernatural darkness of the Cargan Desert.

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Last Edited By: Antarctros Jul 12 09 10:16 PM. Edited 3 times.

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Jul 13 09 10:49 AM

So Flash doesn't work in the Cargen Desert?

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Jul 13 09 11:02 AM

Nope. Only in dark caverns or caves, or quite possibly regular night.

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Jul 13 09 3:04 PM

I didn't know Snowboard was not required. I thought all HMs were required.

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Jul 13 09 3:14 PM

Yep. And the same applies to some other HMs.
Flash: You could do it without, but it would be much more challenging.
Fly: You could walk or surf from place to place instead.
Dig: Same concept of fly, but in dungeons.
Snowboard: Already explained

Any other "non-required" HMs?

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Jul 13 09 3:39 PM

Now, about dig, soble...
In the Nintendo world, Dig was TM28, and in PF, it is used to explore tunnels, which probably makes it required.

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Jul 13 09 5:50 PM

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Well, in fact not, Dig is useful but optional. Besides that one and Snowboard, other HMs that are optional to the main quest are Headbutt, Defog, Fly, Strength, Waterfall, Dive, Magic Bean and Whirlpool. Cut has been somewhat ignored in the past as well. Then again, you'll need them all if you want to get the most out of the PFL experience. Besides, with the increased amount of HMs there had to be some way to make their usage easier - and we implemented it. In our RPG, you can teach your pokémon all the HMs it is able to learn, and keep them all at once. The same does not apply to TMs or tutor moves, however. The total of moves learnt through any of those ways cannot be higher than four.

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Jul 14 09 1:01 AM

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Yup, and what I'd like to add is that some of the non-required HMs give you access to very interesting things. You will find out yourself what those things are ^^

Also, Flarsable, remember Jigglypuff using Sing in the anime? The move is certainly powerful enough to be louder than anything around it.

All in all, you'll find out when you get there; they'll all make sense.

Last Edited By: Shining ShinE Jul 14 09 1:28 AM. Edited 1 times.

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Jul 14 09 2:00 PM

Jigglypuff had a microphone, if I'm not mistaken. And a pen

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Jul 14 09 2:15 PM

I have a question about Snowboard how exactly does it work?

Does a magical ( and i dont mean by the magic type, more like a mystical thing ) snowboard appear and you get to ride it ?
or do you use it somewhat like fly or surf where you hop on a pokemon's back and go about the snow as such?

(Not going to do this the nice way, huh? Fine then, we do it the not-nice way.)

Inside the computer systems at the PokÃ©mon Factory HQ, an alarm started beeping. "Wha-" Poryhedron noted the alarm's source. "Aaron's lost possession of his Basic Gym team Nevermore!? How'd that happen?" Immediately Poryhedron ducked into the wireless router, and at the speed of light, transferred itself to the network servers in Anchore Lab.

Checking security camera feeds, Poryhedron spotted the "novice" trainer with what seemed to be a Snag Machine variant. "Geez, what happened to the days when ne'erdowells snuck in through back windows and stole unattended pokÃ©balls?"

Noting the exact geographical location of the altered pokÃ©ball, Poryhedron jumped from the Lab into the island's pokÃ©mon storage network and then straight into the PokÃ©ball holding Nevermore. A quick alteration of the ball's coding caused it to transfer Nevermore back into Aaron's pokÃ©mon storage account. A second alteration introduced a bizarre glitch that left the ball unable to open or recall pokÃ©mon.

Poryhedron had one more trick up its nonexistant sleeve. Scanning the changes this "Shadow Baller" had made to the pokÃ©ball, it found the wireless channel the device used to interface with pokÃ©balls. Bouncing from the pokÃ©ball to the storage network to the Lab's servers and then into a wireless signal scanner, it used the channel data to transfer itself directly into the Shadow Baller. A few fun little tweaks later, Poryhedron rode the channel back from the device to the nearest pokÃ©ball (which happened to be Vulcant's) and back to the storage network, where it sent Nevermore back into Aaron's pokÃ©ball as an afterthought.

Two seconds later, the Shadow Baller kicked into overdrive, flipping Vulcant's pokÃ©ball between Storage and Deployment sizes at a rapid rate. Nikko tried to shut the device off, but it didn't seem to be responding to any of its controls...finally the Shadow Baller's CPU overheated, there was a pop, and smoke started pouring out of the now-useless device.

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Jul 14 09 2:26 PM

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The second way. Your pokémon carries you while riding snow or ice shavings.

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Jul 14 09 2:30 PM

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@Flarsable: Lol! Good point XD Anyways, as soon as you meet the HM-keeper, you'll find out that this version of Sing is definitely powerful enough ;)

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