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patricol

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Dec 25 08 12:39 AM

What about Suicune? It should be water | wind.

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Poryhedron

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Dec 25 08 5:10 PM

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Discussions about Suicune as a Wind-type have gone on for pages and pages in the past. In the end, PF Staff feels it is better to leave Suicune a pure Water-type who has access to Wind-type moves, both naturally and via TMs.

Flarsable

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Dec 26 08 10:05 AM

Antarctros wrote:
Yes, we do, but only when one of PF's new types, Wind, Light or Magic, makes sense for them. We do not change an official type for another official type. The list of Nintendo pokémon we've changed is the following:

Hoppip line: Grass | Wind
Ampharos: Light | Electric
Lanturn: Water | Light
Rayquaza: Dragon | Wind
Volbeat and Illumise: Bug | Light
Shinx line: Electric | Light
Sunflora: Grass | Light
Drifloon line: Ghost | Wind
Chimecho: Psychic | Wind
Mismagius: Ghost | Magic

Wait a minute, what about Chinchou?

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Antarctros

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Dec 26 08 10:13 AM

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I'll quote myself about that. This is what I posted in the Staff Room, you'll find the reason there:

"I have a suggestion for the Chinchou line. Browsing through their dexes, I found out that Chinchou's focus on the electricity its antennae produce, while Lanturn's on the light. So instead of making them both Water/Light, I would keep Chinchou Water/Electric, and then make it change upon evolution. I was actually going to suggest that we kept both Electric with access to Light-type moves, but I found this to be a better alternative. The idea is that I want the Electric-type moves to make sense in the modified evolution line. I'll explain my reasoning: Chinchou haven't got full control on the light they produce yet, especially for offensive purposes, so they rely more on the electricity. When they evolve, the light becomes their main weapon and electricity is displaced as a useful backup."

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Last Edited By: Antarctros Dec 26 08 10:16 AM. Edited 1 times.

Flarsable

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Dec 26 08 10:19 AM

Oh...
Hmm...
Is there another Pokemon that should be Dual-typed or changed type?
Hmm...
Let me think...

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patricol

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Dec 27 08 3:26 AM

Togekiss should be light | flying.

Flarsable

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Dec 27 08 12:26 PM

In that case, ther whole Togepi line should have Light instead of Normal.

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DieAutobahn

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Dec 27 08 5:48 PM

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I don't think that either of them can produce lights. Can they?

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soble92

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Dec 28 08 5:32 AM

How about Ho-oh? I think it should have something to do with light.
And palkia? We NEED to change the water part with something else.

Last Edited By: soble92 Dec 28 08 5:35 AM. Edited 1 times.

MisterSmeargle

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Dec 28 08 12:53 PM

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It shouldn't.
We don't.

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Flarsable

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Dec 28 08 1:33 PM

DieAutobahn wrote:
I don't think that either of them can produce lights. Can they?

They make people happy

. Why does something have to produce lights to be Light type? I don't think Angelite or Placigel produce light.

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Antarctros

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Dec 28 08 6:19 PM

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Quoting ShinE:

"Happiny, Chansey and Blissey will not change types; neither will the Togepi line. The Light-type is reserved for pokémon with an illuminating or shining nature (or a close relationship to the sun) and is not meant to represent kindness."

This other quote by him references Ho-Oh and is also valid for Palkia.

"we agreed not to change Ho-oh to Light/Flying; legendaries along with their elements are too well known to make such a drastic change. Changing Rayquaza's Flying-type is acceptable since it is known mostly for its Dragon-type, and Flying and Wind aren't that far apart anyway"

In any case, I must say that no more pokémon will have their types changed for the time being anyway.

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Last Edited By: Antarctros Dec 28 08 6:23 PM. Edited 2 times.

soble92

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Dec 28 08 8:09 PM

And yet Antartros, Palkia has no relevance to water whatsoever. I'd say change it to magic/dragon, since its somewhat like manipulating space.

Flarsable

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Dec 29 08 11:43 AM

So you're saying that Dialga should have it's Steel type changed to magic because it can control time and it has almost no revelance to steel whatsoever? That gives me an idea... Celebi should be Grass/Magic. i mean, Time Travel isn't psychic in any way, it's magic. It's not telekinesis, telepathy, mind reading, ability to predict the future/see the past, or anything of the like. I think...

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Shining ShinE

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Dec 29 08 12:22 PM

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I agree that Palkia's and Dialga's types do not make sense. Palkia might just as well be partly Water because of its pearl, which is a very stupid reason, if I may say so. In my opinion, they should've both been either pure Dragon-types, or Dragon/Psychic. However, the above quote stands: legendaries are too well-known to change their types. So, that applies to Celebi too - though, I personally do associate time with psychic abilities. But maybe that's exactly because of Celebi XD
Anyways, we won't change any others. We've had a thorough discussion about this all in the Staff Room, and we'll put the changed pokémon up on the site soon, making our decision final.

soble92

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Dec 29 08 5:06 PM

... Ok. I guess thats fine. Its a bit of a shame though.

Flarsable

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Dec 30 08 10:11 AM

Shining ShinE wrote:
I agree that Palkia's and Dialga's types do not make sense. Palkia might just as well be partly Water because of its pearl, which is a very stupid reason, if I may say so. In my opinion, they should've both been either pure Dragon-types, or Dragon/Psychic. However, the above quote stands: legendaries are too well-known to change their types. So, that applies to Celebi too - though, I personally do associate time with psychic abilities. But maybe that's exactly because of Celebi XD
Anyways, we won't change any others. We've had a thorough discussion about this all in the Staff Room, and we'll put the changed pokémon up on the site soon, making our decision final.

I object. If legendaries are too well known to have their types changed, then explain why the legendary Rayquaza, who (unlike Celebi) actualy has a game to mascot, got it's type changed, and not the other legendaries.

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Dec 30 08 11:43 AM

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As quoted already by Antarctros: Rayquaza is acceptable because 1) the Dragon-type, for which is known most, did not change; and 2) the way less important Flying-type (and I dare someone to speak up and say he/she likes Rayquaza most because of its Flying-type) is changed, to a type which is split from exactly that Flying-type, namely Wind. All in all, hardly anything changed for Rayquaza; we only indicate that it floats, instead of using wings/feathers/whatnotbirdlikethingies.

Flarsable

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Dec 30 08 12:48 PM

However, it says on the site Wind is resistant to Ground, but it doesn't say that Wind is immune to it. If Rayquaza floats, it needs to be immune to Ground, not resistant. And we shouldn't change or add an ability to a legendary.

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Shining ShinE

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Dec 30 08 1:03 PM

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Rayquaza does not necessarily float continuously. What I meant by saying "Rayquaza floats" is that it rides air currents to fly, instead of using wings. Which is why the Wind-type, instead of the Flying-type fits it.

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