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Elfgirl Mchan

Re: Totally dumb US names.

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Feb 4 07 10:13 PM

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I'd have to say it's because they figure that most kids (or people for that matter) don't know proper Japanese pronunciation, so they'd rather re-spell and possibly mutilate the name just to help its pronunciation become a bit clearer. However, from what I've seen, that STILL doesn't stop people from destroying the names of any of the Pokmon.

This is one of the many reasons that the English language sucks...we don't have set pronunciations for letters and dipthongs. Japanese DOES.

Oh, you silly, silly translators...

Guardian of the city...protector of the innocent...fighter for love and peace! I...am...THE GREAT SAIYMCHAN!!!

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Unregistered(d)

Re: Totally dumb US names.

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Feb 5 07 5:11 PM

I wouldn't say it sucks necessarily but more encompassing. Think of it this way, though most people get pronounciation wrong we can easily transition to other languages because we can make similar sounds using our own language.

I do agree with you Mchan that we do destroy the names of those that are directly translated.

Please don't give translators a hard time it's not easy and they're just trying to make it easier for most others to get the basic jist of the name.

Poryhedron

Re: Totally dumb US names.

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Feb 5 07 8:20 PM

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It...doesn't...have anything to do with Japanese. "Buoy" is an English word. Nonetheless, I'll concede that there are probably a lot of people who wouldn't be sure how to pronounce it.

Elfgirl Mchan

Re: Totally dumb US names.

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Feb 6 07 12:55 AM

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It was late, I was being cynical after an odd weekend...forgive me. ^^()

I generally have nothing against translators and like what they do or at least try to do when they bring various media to different shores. I'm fine with most dubs and translations, I just dislike the extent to which things are renamed in some cases.

And Pory, I know that you were referencing the English word 'buoy.' Given my minor and my travel experience in coastal areas, I'm very familiar with them...although I realize now that I probably could have worded my post a little better. My mistake. I was just kvetching about English pronunciation and spelling in general, whether it's from the language itself or from something being translated/re-spelled/whatever. The buoy in this name is one instance where the English language becomes its own enemy, and my mention of Japanese names was merely referencing original names as well as a language that tries to work against confusing its own native speakers in terms of pronunciation. Basically, I'm saying that English could learn set pronunciation rules from other languages.

Hm...I really shouldn't try to tie two things like that into one post when I'm tired...again, sorry for the confusion.

Anyways, believe it or not, I've actually known people who pronounced buoy "boo-oi"...it...hurts.

Guardian of the city...protector of the innocent...fighter for love and peace! I...am...THE GREAT SAIYMCHAN!!!

Shining ShinE

Re: Totally dumb US names.

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Feb 6 07 4:47 AM

PF Executive

Well, to be honest, when I first read the word 'buoy' I thought indeed it was pronounced as 'boo-oi'. Then again, I can be forgiven, being Dutch and all, right? Right?

In any case, we have another one: Elekible will be called Electivire.

Miravistel

Re: Totally dumb US names.

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Feb 6 07 6:19 AM

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I find it interesting that they didn't directly translate Elekible. If they had, it probably would have been named Elecable, which means about the same as what it ended up being named.

Poryhedron

Re: Totally dumb US names.

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Feb 6 07 6:48 AM

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Quote:
Basically, I'm saying that English could learn set pronunciation rules from other languages.

Heh. The problem, of course, is that it has. From too many other languages, all at the same time. Modern English, both British and American, has been a melting-pot language from the generation it was born.

Shining ShinE

Re: Totally dumb US names.

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Feb 6 07 11:15 AM

PF Executive

Yeah, at the moment, I'm more fond of Elecable than Electivire, but I might get used to the latter as well...

ninjamatt2

Re: Totally dumb US names.

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Feb 6 07 1:31 PM

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Same, Elecable is better than Electivire. But Electivire isn't a bad name. Its probally one of the best so far. (Buizel dosen't really count, as its onyl a re-spelling of the same pronuciation.

Unregistered(d)

Re: Totally dumb US names.

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Feb 6 07 5:52 PM

I don't know I kind of like the whole melting pot kind of thing, but oddly not when it comes to Japan accepting so many English words. :lol

Yeah I was kind of disappointed in Electivire's name but like all the other pokemon names I've accepted now.

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BonzaiRob

Re: Totally dumb US names.

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Feb 7 07 10:37 AM

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The thing about English is, the melting-pot-ness works both ways. You understand what I mean with melting-pot-ness, didn't you? Most other languages would need a specific word for that, and no doubt there's at least three in English - but because of how English works, you can still understand melting-pot-ness.
While English can be hard to understand for first-time speakers, it's infinitely versatile.

This is the argument I have to bring out when my girlfriend goes on an anti-English rant; she's a language student, and dislikes how English absorbs everything else.

Dark Caddisfly

Re: Totally dumb US names.

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Feb 7 07 11:08 AM

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Well, it seems that my saying that Buizel's name (hope that's rite) was stupid. If I did offend anyone, I'm sorry. But it's just seems like the names were uninspired. But I guess they'll grow on us. I'm starting to like Buizel's name. ( I think that's it.) But if you don't want to train a pokemon who has a wierd name, just nickname it. As i have stated before, I feel that some pokemon will be getting nicknamed.( curse this M key, it won't work right!!!

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But anyways, hopefully the Neon fish pokemon will have cool names. So far, they're one one of my must-have-on-my-team.

Darkwolf Cor

Re: Totally dumb US names.

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Feb 7 07 1:33 PM

Pokémon Factory Worker

Its actually Electivire, by the way. Some people are calling it Electavire or Electravire.

Anyways, Im okay with it. Just okay. But as Dark Caddisfly mentioned, I nickname all my Pokmon, so Im not really affected by it.

Unregistered(d)

Re: Totally dumb US names.

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Feb 7 07 4:33 PM

You know what come to think of it I end up nicknaming my pokemon also, but I still like the names.

DeckuZora

English names

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Feb 8 07 6:31 PM

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The subject wasn't very nice sounding. let's change it.

I never nickname pokemon. I just don't find it fun. The names'll grow on you in due time though.

Shining ShinE

Re: English names

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Feb 9 07 8:56 AM

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Even though I do realize that not nicknaming them would be like calling your cat 'cat', I never nickname my pokmon either. I usually like all of their names; I'm sure I'll end up liking these as well.

Poryhedron

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Feb 9 07 6:12 PM

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I don't nickname most of my pokmon, but occasionally (especially if I'm playing a theme team runthrough) I'll nickname my main battlers with nicknames that fit a theme. Also, I'll sometimes nickname my HMers, pokmon that don't actually battle and are just on the team to use HM moves.

I do always give Unown nicknames. My usual way to nickname an Unown is to note its letter, determine its Hidden Power type, and then nickname it with a word that starts with the letter and is related to the type (For example, an Unown C with a Poison-type Hidden Power would be nicknamed Cyanide.)

Oh, and if I find and catch a shiny pokmon I tend to nickname it something indicating its shinyness. I once caught a Shiny Rattata and named it Sparkle.